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enter the black fire - keiji haino interview
Of all the Japanese musicians now coming to prominence in the
West, Keiji Haino is the most extraordinary: his music, shrouded in mystery, describes
a personal quest of withering complexity and intensity. Biba Kopf
talks to Haino in Tokyo.
Dressed in black from head to foot in the style of a 19th century
French dandy, Keiji Haino knows how to make an entrance. In another
time and place you could imagine him walking a lobster on a lead,
but in this PC age he'll settle for a cane to complement the long
silver-flecked hair falling midway down his back, his black lace
cuffs, winklepickers and ever present dark glasses. If the waitresses
of this Euro-Tokyo cafe, located down a side alley of one of the
technopolis's quieter suburbs, haven't seen his like before, they're
not letting on. As for Haino, he almost sniffs the air like a
cat as he takes in his surroundings. Once seated, he exchanges
smiles and words with his manager, the benign, Buddha-like Tanaka-san,
and then raises his hand and starts clicking his fingers furiously
in what seems to be for Japan, or anywhere else come to that,
a shocking outburst of rudeness which the waitresses contrive
not to notice.
"Don't worry, he's not after service," intercedes interpreter
Alan Cummings. "He's checking out the room's acoustics in case
he wants to play here. He lives just down the road."
Now aged 44, Keiji Haino is one of the most vital figures within
and outside contemporary music. It might have taken him 20 years
to release his first two albums (his first solo release appeared
in 1981, ten years or so after he first started performing; the
first release by his power trio Fushitsusha took almost as long
to arrive), but since 1990 - in Japanese terms, Year One of Heisei,
the new era following the death of Emperor Hirohito - the world
has been deluged by Haino recordings. These include, appropriately
enough, two Live In The First Year Of Heisei volumes, featuring
Haino alongside folk-blues singer Kan Mikami and improvising bassist
Motoharu Yoshizawa, who was a member of legendary Japanese noise
guitarist Masayuki Takayanagi's New Directions group.
Whether they document his solo works for guitar, percussion and
hurdy-gurdy, or groups projects with Fushitsusha, Vajra and Nijiumu,
each of Haino's releases holds true to a singular musical vision,
a vision whose intensity is partially indicated by a Haino title:
"Further, Further Into The Twilight". Haino's music is the blues
on a Wagnerian scale, where the struggle between the forces of
light and darkness is kept in a precarious balance (and the outcome
always remains in doubt). In the process he generates a heat so
intense it burns itself into the consciousness, not to mention
the conscience, of the music world. Haino isn't so much a direct
influence on any one individual or scene - his vision is too personal,
his guitar sound, in particular, too determinedly self-immolating
for others to tamely follow him into the flames - but rather he
is a tremendously invigorating force whose life's work is amassing
an immense body of music that demands to be reckoned with. Though
the great, gleeful guitar racket of the self-proclaimed Tokyo
psychedelic garage underground (High Rise, Musica Transonic, Mainliner)
is inconceivable without him - you could say his presence both
legitimises and adds depth to it - his relationship to the younger
groups is tangential. His position to the rest of the world is
something akin to John Coltrane's, Cecil Taylor's or Evan Parker's
relation to jazz and the free music scene: Haino's way into the
music is through himself, his vision personal in the extreme,
and for that reason it burns so brightly it is capable of illuminating
the listener's darkest, most intimate hours.
In conversation, Keiji Haino speaks a maddening mix of mysticism
and methodology, Zen sense and nonsense, clarity and contradiction.
He is particularly winning when he tightens his whole being to
squeeze out laughter, or hisses to express his love or hate of
something. Regardless of the fact his meaning often evades ready
comprehension, he takes great time and care in explaining himself.
"I am extremely aware now," Haino told fellow guitarist/singer
Yoshiaki Takahashi, of These, in a 1991 issue of Imperial Theatre
fanzine," because I don't want to be misunderstood. It doesn't
matter whether you like me or not, just don't misunderstand me.
I don't want people to like or hate me for the wrong reasons."
If Haino's music is equally hard to define, its impact is both
immediate and indelible. As a guitar player he produces the most
astonishing elemental noise this side of his acknowledged heroes
Blue Cheer. His is a dense, reverberating mass of sound impacted
from wave-lapping-wave of metal screes into which he sears guitar
hieroglyphs marking his journey towards the core of his being.
Or else he threatens to engulf the whole in flames of feedback.
The noise is unceasing, his songs seemingly never-ending, sometimes
sustaining levels of intensity for 40 minutes and longer, with
no exit in sight. And at the moment you feel you can endure it
no longer, the sound suddenly explodes into light, and what was
seconds ago almightily and unbearably oppressive is now carrying
you to ecstasy. This is probably what he meant when he said, in
an unpublished interview with the American magazine Forced Exposure,
"The goal of my music is not to go beyond psychedelic music but
to deepen it. There are many people who call my music psychedelic.
My music is faster. Unlike psychedelic musicians who stop because
of their desire for easiness, for shortcuts, I do not stop."
Keiji Haino has more to offer than deep, enriched, psychedelic
experiences. His solo electric guitar/vocal music veers from soul-pulverising
heaviness to haunted songs where he sounds faint chords inside
a tunnel of gently ringing feedback harmonics, from which his
high keening voice emerges, expressing who knows what anguish.
They suggest a soul even more troubled than Alex Chilton's on
Big Star's broken-backed third album, or Neil Young's sweet, cracked
alto elegising dead friends on Tonight's The Night. The difference
with Haino's songs is that they're arrived at with their singer
fully conscious and capable of making some kind of sense of the
despair they encapsulate, no matter how shredded full of holes
they may be. Whatever condition they describe, Haino's works don't
swell in misery.
"It comes from prayer," he tells me, explaining his music's origins.
"The ripples from that place and those reverberations then become
music. That's what I would like the best music to be. . . The
reason why prayer exists isn't so much a matter of bargaining
for something. It exists because everything isn't perfect, because
there is sadness and pain. People have a longing for something
and pray to make it complete. . ."
So is his music a healing process, a balm for the soul?
"I'm talking about where the music comes from, not how it enters
into the world, so I can't really say whether it's a tool for
prayer, or how it works on the spirit, or even where it goes in
the world."
Rather than the healing power of music, he talks of it as a struggle
between black and white magic. Though he's cautious about the
description, he believes his music is a "diagram of white magic",
but if his effort falls just short, it will remain as black magic;
the transference will not occur. He explains his take on white
magic thus: "Say if we were sitting here talking and for some
reason you actually hated Haino, but while you were talking your
hate evaporated and you grew to like him, well, there's got to
be an equal volume on both sides, as it were. I can't change your
hate into like unless there is an equal amount of like corresponding
to your hate. Basically, white magic is the power to change something
negative into something positive."
And what does that mean, sonically speaking? The way Haino engages
in a struggle to control the elemental forces he unleashes from
his guitar can sound like the dramatisation of the struggle between
the forces of light and darkness.
"I'm not thinking of guitar or any particular type of sound as
having black or white properties, "he corrects. "As far as I'm
concerned the black magic/white magic thing will be determined
by the listener. The ultimate switchover will be made by him.
It is something that will be judged later, as it were."
Come judgment day, the gods have got their work cut out sorting
Haino's uncategorizable, ever-expanding body of work. Aside from
his solo material and Fushitsusha, there's Nijiumu, which creates
a timeless "global ancient music" using electronics and antique
instruments and percussion. Commenting on a Nijiumu performance
he's seen, Alan Cummings says he's reminded "about something Kunio
Komparu wrote about Noh theatre, about how it doesn't matter if
you fall asleep because Noh is not of this world entirely and
so is best appreciated in a trance state somewhere between wakefulness
and dreaming." Haino also plays solo percussion or hurdy-gurdy
sets, and participates in various ad hoc improvising units (duos
with bassist Barre Phillips, saxophonist Peter Brotzmann, guitarist
Loren MazzaCane Connors). His other groups include Vasara - Sanskrit
for the gods of lust and anger; the combustible electric blues
trio he shares with Kan Mikami; and the slow-burning improvisations
of the guitar/violin trio Black Stage.
Solo percussion allows him to isolate and explore the totality
of a single sound, something the hum of Marshall amps renders
impossible with electric guitar. He was drawn to the hurdy-gurdy
by the simple fact that he knew of no other instrument where the
sound is produced by turning a handle. The paradox that guides
Haino's musics on these various instruments is his signature,
and is somehow sonically inscribed in the very first sound he
makes on them. You probably won't be surprised to hear this, but
Haino doesn't differentiate between his various activities.
"Everything I do is the same," he emphasises. "As far as I am
concerned, there really isn't any difference, because it's all
really expressing the same thing. There may be certain changes
in what I actually say, I may say something before and something
after drinking this tea, and in the course of something entering
my body, there may be a difference in the content, but nothing
has really changed at all. Basically, I haven't changed since
Lost Aaraaf." (Haino's first group from 1970-71, an Albert Ayler
influenced piano-led outfit with Haino's voice standing in for
saxophone.)
Change, it transpires, is anathema to Haino. Change equals bad
faith, a lack of courage in seeing things through to the last.
Popular music, from punk through psychedelia, is scattered with
part-explored paths or prematurely spent ideas. Projects are begun
and ten abandoned for want to will-power; musicians buckle under
the pressure of the marketplace, where the idea of permanent change
is essentially a way of talking up novelty product.
If Haino's attitude strikes Western ears as strangely conservative,
it perhaps requires a leap of imagination to fully understand
what he means. Haino belongs to that diaspora of rock-damaged
souls brought up on Highway 61-era Dylan and The Doors. Rock's
impact on those young Japanese willing to receive it was as great
as anywhere else in the industrialised world, maybe more so, what
with distance allowing for some of the music's dafter excesses
to be dumped overboard en route. Japan in the 60s was undergoing
the same kind of upheavals as Europe and America: student unrest,
anti-war demos, and local issues like the protests over the renewal
of the Japanese-American defence treaty and the pitched battles
taking place over the construction of a runway at Tokyo's Narita
Airport.
The airport protests, periodically acted out to this day but with
considerably less impact, marked the beginning of the end of serious
student activism in Japan. From 1969 on, large conglomerates systematically
excluded militants from jobs, where before their behaviour would
have been accepted as part of growing up. Once the practice became
apparent, potential activists had to weigh up their political
commitment against the long term damage to their career prospects.
Inevitably, the majority of students conformed, thus contributing
to Japan's increasingly consensual society. And the more wealthy
Japan became, the greater the consumer choices, the harder it
was for anyone to resist going with the consumer flow. Ex-hippies
like the members of Yellow Magic Orchestra took the path of least
resistance into the realm of playful postmodern irony that seemed
the most suitable, not to mention pleasurably safe, if ultimately
hollow, critical response to Japan's rampant consumerism. For
someone like Haino, for whom play, postmodern parody and irony
represent the antithesis of the spirit, 70s and 80s Tokyo must
have been limbo or worse.
If not directly caused by socio-political changes, Haino's public
disappearance in the 1970s nevertheless coincides with Japan's
slide in to a one-size-fits-all consensual culture. Musically
his career had barely got off the ground when the clampdown in
the universities and the corporations began taking effect. Lost
Aaraaf had contributed a few tracks to the 1971 double LP compilation
Sanritsuka Genyasai, which documented a concert and violent demonstration
against the new airport. Then Haino disappeared from public view
for the next ten years. He told Forced Exposure he confined himself
to a room in his parents' house in the suburbs for three or four
years, studying Chinese breathing and the blues rhythms of Lightnin'
Hopkins and Blind Lemon Jefferson. He slowly returned to view
with a few sessions, formed Fushitsusha in 1978, released his
indispensable first solo album Watashi Dake?/Only Me? in 1981,
then suffered an illness that kept him out of action for another
three years. How did he keep the faith that fuses all his works
through the years of sickness and silence?
"Basically doing a lot of thinking about music and where it comes
from..."
Perhaps this is how the magic Haino talks about works: his struggle
to keep the faith constituted a strand of resistance within Japan
and the industrialised world, where peer group and economic pressures
conspired to silence all voices and noises unwilling or incapable
of consenting to the spreading blandness in worldwide popular
culture.
"I am not an anarchist, I am Anarchy," Haino is fond of saying.
He expands: "Anarchy, if you are talking about anarchy... When
Buddha meditated he achieved satori [spiritual awakening, or enlightenment],
and the body disappeared, that would be the end. But what physically
remains after satori is what was written up by the Buddha's pupils,
not the satori itself. Buddha said he's got something that he
cannot understand or express in words. My job, my anarchy, which
is political only insofar as not being interested in politics
at all is political, what I am trying to do is to express in music
the satori that the Buddha achieved but couldn't explain."
biba kopf, the wire 151, september 1996
www.thewire.co.uk/out/9911_1i.htm
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